Session Start: Sun Sep 23 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[08:37]<+Craig> Hahahahaha, Tux2 Why are you always on just after I go to bed. :P hahahaha
[08:39]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[08:39]<+Craig> Hey Camerongray
[08:39]<+camerongray> How are you>
[08:39]<+camerongray> ?*
[08:40]<+Craig> Doing good, what are you upt o?
[08:40]<+camerongray> Linear Algebra :P
[08:42]<+camerongray> So confusing!
[08:44]<+Craig> :P
[08:45]<+Craig> Laters, I have to go and get ready. :)
[08:45]<+camerongray> cya
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[09:05]<+camerongray> hey jacky & pottsi
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[09:05]<+pottsi> hey camerongray
[09:06]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[09:06]<@jacky> pottsi: Hello
[09:06]<+pottsi> hey jacky
[09:06]<+pottsi> how're things?
[09:07]<@jacky> me? doing ok. tnx.
[09:07]<@jacky> yourself?
[09:07]<+pottsi> decent
[09:07]<+pottsi> tired
[09:07]<+pottsi> early shifts are wank
[09:07]<+pottsi> :\
[09:07]<@jacky> heh
[09:07]<@jacky> what's "early"?
[09:09]<+pottsi> early shift
[09:09]<@jacky> right... what hours of the day?
[09:10]<+camerongray> Where do you work?
[09:12]<+pottsi> metrolink camerongray
[09:12]<+camerongray> nice!
[09:13]<+camerongray> I need to work more
[09:13]<+pottsi> earlys = 3/4/5/6 am to 1/2/3 pm
[09:13]<+camerongray> Ahh, ouch!
[09:13]<@jacky> ugg... that 3 or 4 am stuff will get you
[09:13]<@jacky> changing (what is probably) your normal body cycle
[09:14]<+camerongray> I've not done any work since I started Uni, they are going to send me some work to do in a few weeks so that's good :D
[09:14]<@jacky> 6am isn't so bad... more of an inconvenience
[09:14]<+pottsi> yeah, pardon my language. my body clock is <censored>
[09:14]<+camerongray> lol
[09:14]<@jacky> worse is if it is not constant
[09:14]<+camerongray> True
[09:14]<+pottsi> i was eating burger king at 9am lol
[09:14]<+pottsi> thought it was tea
[09:14]<+pottsi> :\
[09:14]<+camerongray> lol
[09:15]<@jacky> if you can get up at 2:00 am EVERY day, then you will go to bed at some regular time too, and eventually adjust
[09:15]<+camerongray> To be fair I'd probably do that anyway :P
[09:15]<@jacky> but when it is a moving targer, you are screwed
[09:15]<+camerongray> Shame there is no Burger King in the city center
[09:15]<@jacky> Is Burger King popular over there?
[09:16]<+camerongray> Yeah, but the one here is being converted to an apple store
[09:16]<+camerongray> There is one but it's in the train station and smells of trains :P
[09:16]<@jacky> like they need another one... according to the news here, they expect to be sold out of Iphones Monday morning
[09:16]<@jacky> mmmm..... burger with diesel fumes and/or ozone.
[09:16]<+camerongray> lol, no Apple Store in Edinburgh
[09:17]<+camerongray> Glasgow have 2, not fair!
[09:17]<@jacky> ah... but does either of those two have Iphones? or are they too sold out?
[09:17]<+camerongray> Not sure, would be sold out though
[09:17]<+camerongray> All the fanboys will queue for it for days
[09:18]<+camerongray> I got my Android phone on launch in the evening, just walked in and picked it up :P
[09:18]<+pottsi> manchester sold out within the first day
[09:18]<+camerongray> The iPhone 5 looks nice but is still WAY too small for me
[09:18]<@jacky> TV here.. some idiot reporter walking around talking to people... you know the scene... anyway, one after another, shoves the mic in somebodies face that is in line... the answer was almost alwayst the same, "Because it is an Apple".
[09:18]<+pottsi> queues outside as i arrived for work at 4 am
[09:19]<+camerongray> lol, some people treat it as a religion
[09:19]<@jacky> zombies
[09:19]<@jacky> no thinking
[09:19]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:19]<@jacky> I'm not promoting either... but that kind of mindset is just amazing to me
[09:20]<@jacky> one of my friends points out - to him it is important - that you cannot simply switch out the battery in an Iphone
[09:20]<+camerongray> I see that when I'm using my MacBook Pro, you either get people "Oh my god that;s so cool, look at the apple, and it's aluminium" where my response is "It's just a laptop" or you get people "You fanboy, you wated your money, my £200 HP is better"
[09:20]<@jacky> camerongray: so what is YOUR reason for owning it then?
[09:21]<+camerongray> Good battery, 16:10 screen, light and porable
[09:21]<+camerongray> portable*
[09:21]<@jacky> all reasonable
[09:21]<@jacky> could be debated, I'm sure... but valid
[09:21]<+camerongray> Plus I wanted a UNIX based OS but had some commercial software
[09:21]<@jacky> ok
[09:22]<+camerongray> I've been called a fanboy for owning the Mac despite having it closed and working on a LINUX PC while using my android phone :P
[09:22]<@jacky> that's the other side of the coin.
[09:22]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:22]<@jacky> not thinking
[09:22]<+camerongray> I like both, this is being typed on a Windows 8 PC
[09:22]<+camerongray> I generally use the mac for uni
[09:23]<@jacky> if somebody logs in here with a Mac, will they be able to even read your words?
[09:23]<@jacky> >g<
[09:23]<+camerongray> lol
[09:24]<@jacky> seen, or talked to Mulreay today?
[09:24]<+camerongray> nope
[09:24]<@jacky> !seen bc_programming
[09:24]<+camerongray> I love how defensive some Apple fanboys are, I critisized my MacBook's touchpad becuase scrolling left will cause the browser to go back
[09:24]<@jacky> wanted to be sure he knew that BC popped in
[09:24]<+camerongray> They went mad :P
[09:25]<@jacky> heh
[09:25]<+camerongray> Then the one that saw I had a "CompSoc" sticker on the top of mine, they went mad as though I'd defaced a statue of a religious figure
[09:27]<@jacky> what is CompSoc
[09:27]<@jacky> ?
[09:27]<+camerongray> Ahh, Edinburgh University Computer Society
[09:27]<@jacky> stick a picture of Bill Gates on it
[09:28]<@jacky> give them heartburn....
[09:28]<+camerongray> Bacially sitting in a pub talking about computers :P
[09:28]<+camerongray> lol
[09:28]<+camerongray> Stick it OVER the apple!
[09:28]<@jacky> where else?
[09:28]<@jacky> heh
[09:28]<+camerongray> lol
[09:28]<+camerongray> OR this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzklHZqkbE
[09:29]<@jacky> or this: http://rlv.zcache.com/ipad_art_lemon_logo_speckcase-p176999509564604127bhar2_400.jpg
[09:30]<+camerongray> lol
[09:30]<@jacky> heh
[09:30]<@jacky> what did he write, over the logo, after he signed it?
[09:30]<@jacky> could you read it?
[09:30]<+pottsi> just ordered another dedi
[09:31]<+camerongray> "Need a new one?"
[09:31]<+pottsi> kinda, gonna drop one host and move to this i think
[09:31]<+pottsi> after testing it a month or so
[09:31]<+camerongray> Cool
[09:31]<+pottsi> :)
[09:31]<@jacky> dedi?
[09:32]<+pottsi> dedicated server
[09:32]<@jacky> ah
[09:32]<@jacky> the vps?
[09:33]<+pottsi> vps are different to dedi's
[09:33]<@jacky> oh. ok
[09:33]<+pottsi> dedi's split into vps's :)
[09:34]<@jacky> didn't know if you meant that I'd be re-doing bots again soon. :)
[09:34]<+camerongray> I want a dedi :P
[09:34]<+pottsi> ahh no
[09:34]<+pottsi> you're fine
[09:34]<+pottsi> camerongray this is cheap
[09:34]<+camerongray> But I have a couple of VPSs and they do the job fine
[09:34]<@jacky> right now, are you using a dedicated server? or a vps?
[09:34]<+camerongray> How much?
[09:34]<+pottsi> 50 euro a month
[09:34]<+camerongray> My VPS is £4.50 :P
[09:34]<+pottsi> jacky one dedi 2 vps's
[09:35]<@jacky> wow
[09:35]<+camerongray> Then the other is £3 - That's just a basic LAMP stack for a client
[09:36]<+pottsi> sec i'll do specs
[09:36]<@jacky> pottsi: it doesn't matter about your specs. because it would be BETTER if it was on a Mac.
[09:37]<@jacky> <g>
[09:37]<+camerongray> lol!
[09:37]<@jacky> ya like that, huh?
[09:37]<@jacky> heheh
[09:38]<+pottsi> http://pastebin.com/F6Bz5MZV
[09:38]<+pottsi> haha
[09:38]<+camerongray> nice!
[09:39]<+pottsi> not bad at all really
[09:39]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:40]<+camerongray> I love how useless Siri is in the UK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSMsfe4me4U&feature=plcp
[09:40]<@jacky> did they do away with Siri, in the newest Iphone?
[09:40]<+camerongray> Nope, still there
[09:41]<+pottsi> jailbrake
[09:41]<+pottsi> then siri hacks :)
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[09:41]<@jacky> sonicrules1234: Hello
[09:41]<sonicrules1234> Ohai
[09:42]<@jacky> camerongray: listening to it now.
[09:42]<@jacky> hey... you can't blame the phone for not understanding that!
[09:42]<@jacky> heheheeh
[09:42]<+camerongray> lol
[09:42]<+camerongray> It looks cool when it works but doesn't even understand me, and I don't really have a strong accent
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[09:43]<@jacky> camerongray: does the person speaking in that video have a "strong accent"?
[09:43]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:43]<@jacky> to me, it is HUGE
[09:44]<+camerongray> Glasgow accent is a lot harder to understand than Edinburgh
[09:44]<@jacky> and..?
[09:44]<+camerongray> Android understands me a lot better
[09:44]<+camerongray> Although I never use it
[09:45]<@jacky> I thought you were going to tell me what kind of accent that was, in the video
[09:45]<+camerongray> Ahh, that's a Glasgow accent
[09:45]<@jacky> oh
[09:45]<@jacky> ok
[09:45]<@jacky> heh
[09:45]<@jacky> how far apart, mileage wise, are Glasgow and Edinburgh?
[09:46]<+camerongray> About 50 miles
[09:46]<@jacky> wow
[09:46]<@jacky> and there is a big diff in the accent?
[09:46]<@jacky> amazing....
[09:46]<@jacky> when you were here, did you go to New York City?
[09:47]<+camerongray> Yeah, they have a strong accent :P
[09:47]<@jacky> yep
[09:47]<@jacky> obnoxiuos, too
[09:47]<+camerongray> lol
[09:47]<+camerongray> Yeah, the airport was the worst
[09:47]<@jacky> then there is the white New Yorker and the black New Yorker... totally different
[09:47]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:47]<@jacky> airport was worse?
[09:48]<@jacky> why is that?
[09:48]<+camerongray> Nobody was helpful :P
[09:48]<@jacky> and if you heard somebody from New Jersey (Joisey) they are something else too.
[09:48]<@jacky> ah... good ol' New York
[09:48]<@jacky> but to me, that is city people from any city.
[09:48]<@jacky> eheehe
[09:48]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah, the Airport was in NJ :P
[09:49]<+camerongray> Accents change really quickly here, even a few miles away and I notice the difference
[09:49]<@jacky> part of their accent - both of them - is not the actual pronunciation, by the rhythm of their speech
[09:49]<@jacky> to see a big difference here, one must travel a ways, usually
[09:49]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:50]<@jacky> you went Florida if I recall
[09:50]<+camerongray> Here people tend to use different words in different areas,, or pronounce words without certain letters
[09:50]<@jacky> that sort of doesn't count as "southern" accent due to the massive influx of people from other areas
[09:50]<+camerongray> lol
[09:50]<@jacky> did you get into the country though? away from a city, anywhere down south?
[09:50]<+camerongray> Nah
[09:51]<@jacky> you'd be able to tell the difference from New York!!
[09:51]<@jacky> heehehe
[09:51]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:51]<@jacky> to my ear, I can get English and Australian mixed up... if I hear only a short sentence or two
[09:51]<@jacky> eventually, I can tell
[09:51]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[09:52]<@jacky> but I bet to them, THEY can tell, instantly
[09:52]<@jacky> heh
[09:52]<+camerongray> People always get scottish and irish mixed up
[09:52]<@jacky> I can
[09:52]<@jacky> you both roll your R's, don't you?
[09:52]<+Craig> I can get the UK and Australia, and South African's straight after a sentice or two. :)
[09:52]<+camerongray> What about different coutries in the UK? :P
[09:53]<@jacky> Ahh... South Africa... forgot that one
[09:53]<@jacky> camerongray: do you speak/understand Gaelic?
[09:53]<+camerongray> Not a word :P
[09:53]<@jacky> heh
[09:53]<@jacky> would you know: Is Scottich Gaelic and Irish Gaelic mostly the same?
[09:53]<@jacky> or totally different, and just named the same?
[09:54]<+camerongray> No idea :P
[09:54]<+camerongray> Never actually heard it being used by anyone
[09:54]<@jacky> fair 'nuff
[09:54]<@jacky> heh
[09:55]<@jacky> It is a shame for things like that... bits of history actually.... to disappear
[09:56]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:56]<+camerongray> It's sometimes used in very small communities
[09:56]<+camerongray> But not in any cities
[09:56]<@jacky> cool
[10:31]<+camerongray> Grr, my calcuator decides that it's out of battery DURING the maths test
[10:31]<+camerongray> And of course I don't have any more :P
[10:31]<@jacky> ask us... we'll help you
[10:31]<@jacky> hehe
[10:31]<@jacky> <eg>
[10:32]<+camerongray> lol
[10:32]<+camerongray> I ended up using the Windows calculator
[10:32]<+camerongray> Conclusion, it's terrible!
[10:33]<@jacky> because the Mac calculator is "better", right?
[10:33]<+camerongray> lol, it's a lot worse actually :P
[10:33]<@jacky> sacriledge!!
[10:33]<+camerongray> hehehe
[10:33]<+camerongray> This is the one I normally use: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Texas-Instruments-Plus-Silver-Edition/dp/B0006HBQ8W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1348418039&sr=8-2
[10:34]<+camerongray> It has a USB port!
[10:34]<@jacky> ooooohhh!
[10:34]<@jacky> hehe
[10:34]<+camerongray> lol
[10:35]<@jacky> this is the one I used: http://www.thimet.de/calccollection/calculators/ti-sr-50/contents.htm
[10:35]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[10:35]<+camerongray> Bet the batteries lasted longer than mine though
[10:35]<@jacky> Original Pricing, Production Jan 15, 1974, $169.95.
[10:35]<+camerongray> wow!
[10:35]<@jacky> sounds a bit high
[10:35]<@jacky> not much though
[10:35]<@jacky> I seem to recall 150
[10:35]<+pottsi> Condition Cosmetically poor. Silver lining around the display partially worn off. Black paint scratched off above the square-root key. One of the battery contacts broke off and has been resoldered unprofessionally. Rubber feet are missing. Functionally ok, all display segments functioning.
[10:35]<+pottsi> lol
[10:35]<@jacky> and mine was 110/120 of course... for the charger
[10:36]<@jacky> mine was brand new. heh
[10:36]<@jacky> I think it might be in the attic
[10:36]<+camerongray> lol, nice
[10:36]<@jacky> hey... it had A memory!
[10:36]<@jacky> that was very cool
[10:37]<+camerongray> lol, the CPU in mine is only 2 years newer than that calculator!
[10:37]<+camerongray> Still uses a Zilog Z80
[10:37]<@jacky> that's because 2+2 is still 4
[10:37]<+camerongray> lol
[10:39]<@jacky> The early personal computer, the Sinclair ZX80, had _________ of internal memory ?
[10:39]<@jacky> quick
[10:39]<@jacky> I'm playing trivia
[10:39]<@jacky> no kidding.. that's the question
[10:39]<@jacky> too late
[10:39]<@jacky> 1 kilobye
[10:39]<+camerongray> lol, I have a ZX81
[10:40]<+camerongray> The thing with my calculator is that for the same price I could easily get a smartphone and install an app that emulates the calculator
[10:41]<@jacky> http://www.xara.com/news/october06/img/pencil37.png <<< cheaper, still
[10:41]<+camerongray> hahaha
[10:42]<+camerongray> Time to learn some Java!
[10:43]<+pottsi> sure learn to not use it
[10:43]<+pottsi> java sucks
[10:43]<+camerongray> lol, need it for uni
[10:43]<+camerongray> I don't mind it, sure it's not the fastest but very nice to code in
[10:44]<+pottsi> dude you run it for 10 seconds
[10:44]<+pottsi> your comp blows up
[10:44]<+camerongray> lol, pretty sure mine can cope :P
[10:44]<+pottsi> i play minecraf 10 secs boom done
[10:44]<+pottsi> 4gb ram
[10:44]<+pottsi> duel core
[10:44]<@jacky> c'mon pottsi... he runs a Mac.... sheesh..
[10:45]<+camerongray> lol
[10:45]<@jacky> it's WONDERFUL
[10:45]<+pottsi> xD
[10:45]<+camerongray> I'm hardly coding minecraft :P
[10:45]<+pottsi> wouldn't be hard too
[10:45]<+camerongray> lol
[10:46]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, something Siri can't do: https://twitter.com/#!/camerongray1515/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FHyxsQAnJ
[10:48]<sonicrules1234> camerongray: I don't think it selected it because of it being the nearest, but more of it having Jesus in the name of it
[10:48]<+camerongray> It's done it woth other churches
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> That don't have Jesus in the name?
[10:49]<+camerongray> yeah
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> Ah ok
[10:49]<+camerongray> Unless of course it's tagged somewhere as jesus
[10:50]<+camerongray> Google Now freaks me out, I look for pizza offers on my PC and my phone offers to give directions to Pizza Hut
[10:51]<@jacky> see you later ....
[10:51]<@jacky> 
[10:51]<+pottsi> o/
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[14:45]<+Tux2> Craig: you there now?
[14:45]<+camerongray> hey tux2
[14:46]<+Tux2> hey camerongray
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[21:51]<+Craig> Hey Tux, you back now? :P I am. hahahah
[22:31]<+Tux2> lol Craig, Now I am
[22:31]<+Craig> :P
[22:31]<+Tux2> yay!
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[22:34]<+Tux2> How is spawn coming along Craig?
[22:34]<+Craig> I've stopped since yesterday, but what else do you think it needs?
[22:34]<+Tux2> let me check
[22:35]<+Tux2> What's an mffs area projector?
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[22:36]<+Craig> A sheild.
[22:36]<+Tux2> Ah, gotcha
[22:36]<+Craig> Turn it on :p
[22:37]<+Tux2> woah, what does it shield from?
[22:38]<+Craig> Hahaha everything let me show you where its stored.
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